We were in a small room. Arnold Jacobs was there, Sir Georg Solti was there and Solti told me that I had won the job. I made it very very clear I was not replacing Arnold Jacobs because Arnold Jacobs was irreplaceable.
Mike got stuck with the clarinet. After we had been playing for a couple years, we used to get together in the bathroom ‘cause we liked the echo. We would just play free . . . we didn't know much about chord changes at that age.